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true. i feel the problem the comic suffers is it's too fast paced at times.

personally all's i want is things to go back to normal. i know people like dylan are gonna say the same old "just let em go" speech, but if archie had either paid the other's there royaltise or asked for permission we wouldn't be having this conversation.   and dylan i don't really think panders is the one starting this show, i feel the freelancers just wanted to take a stand and get there money.

sorry I was on my phone and I had to get this out there dylan. Because Archie didn't want to give credit where it's due the comics may be in trouble again 

40+ others are after Archie as well. RIP the comics   

same here. i feel bad for ken. imagine you're just trying to do the right thing but the media or the fan base decides to mess up the message and what not. i'm more mad at archie now. the series could have gone on the same way if they had just credit panders and the other writers but no, they had to reboot the whole (bleep)ing thing. and if that isn't bad enough, they have the audacity to have flynn keep quite and not tell the truth or they'll give him the boot. probably what ken was talking about when he said flynn does't know the trouble he's getting in with hedgehog tales.

I feel so stupid now, this all makes scene, why archie isn't using the other writers characters, why panders is in the right. man i feel so stupid, but i am siding with panders on this one 100%. i have nothing against the guy and thanks to you're comment i now understand who's right and who's wrong. i didn't mean to not know, the situation was just a mess and what not. archie, you really disappoint me here, and people wonder why i would be ok with sega taking away you're rights to do sonic comics.

i got goosebumps now. panders said that the new archie app is a brech of contract and is going after them for it.

agreed. i want evil super sonic from the fleetway comics. imagine him tossing around the distructix's and the freedom fighters, basiclly kicking everyone's (bleep). you don't know how much i'd pay flynn and archie just to see that happen...

sorry dylan. but yeah, if ian flynn ever gets a chance to have super-sonic turn evil, he should hopefully go for it...

i don't know dylan, i didn't see the angle too dark, and with evil super sonic i think it would make a great or convincing story line. think of it this way, everyone's in shock about sonic turning into this thing when he's super and the freedom fighters get backlash over having him still on his team. i know the angle seems streams strange and dark but evil super sonic is beyond orginal and something i'll give sonic the comic major credit for...now if they could bring in some of archie's characters without hell and high water because of copyright...

i would have a storyline sort of like fleetways where people think sonic is turning bad.

i still like and don't mind if archie does go fan fic on this. that and why is it that something is only offical when the company releases it? esepcially if that company is dead and gone, then what?  that's also why i like the pre-boot. so what if it doesn't follow the games, the games leaves out a lot of stuff, and we don't see characters from the games like bean and bark and other stuff...

Sorry guys on here if topics surrounding mr.panders lawsuit are making you hate me, but one thing i can't help but ask is who (who was not made by panders) do you think we could see return in the comics again. we have storm back which took me by surprise, and i think/hope that others we may see include -ash mongoose -mina -li moon -snively -iron nicole. what's your say in this guys.

neo, thanks for the appology, it shows that you don't mean to be mean, and us fans can't help it. like skye said, it's superior to what it's advertising and we want the comics to be more then just some advertisement, hence the shipping and stuff. flynn not shipping characters i can see and have heard about before, but there's a part of me that wants fan out cry to change that, and i know not everyone is gonna look to fan fiction because of stories or other bad experinces that will or have put a bad taste in their mouth.   

i do believe he's attacking because he's not getting enough royalty money. if that's the case i'm backing him up in it, archie should just give him the money instead of be all butt hurt. boo hoo, you have to pay him money, just do it before you lose the rights to the comics or worse.

what are some of the saddest moments you can think of in the sonic the comic series/sonic universe.

bro, i agree with everything you say, and i agree and glad you pointed that up there for anther argument on why we should see them back. that and would it hurt for the former writers to oh i don't know? say "lesson archie, i don't like this or that" instead of just hitting them with a lawsuit.   anther reason why i hate the post wave is because of lack of shipping. guys look, hate me all you want, dylan i know you like this this way but i don't. we already deal enough of that in the games and i hate how ian can't establish any relationships or try to. tails could be with fiona fox or nicole in a touching love story angle, and sally and sonic could get back together, but instead no, we can't have that happen, we probably can't even have stories that take place in the future. I hate and hope this changes, so what if the sega ship fans are out of control? ignore them, you already have fans leaving the comics simply because of the reboot, and i'm sure that sega doesn't give to (bleeps) about how fans feel about sonic boom, other wise why the hell are we getting a squeal to it?   as blue comet said, i know it's time to move on but we can't, some of us really can't. this universe came out of no where all because of a crossover with mega man, and i blame archie because of this situation and how things are running. we could still be having panders and other writers characters, hell, panders even ALLOWS it and doesn't mind, but instead they have to do this out of worry. i get that to some degree but if they really knew there writers they would continue and just make up some excuse for why panders characters are gone, it really ticks me off, and it's why i hate archie and just want to beg sega to take the rights away sometimes. Poor flynn is stressing his heart out cause old archie with there stupid blond haired mascot who can go (bleep) himself had to mess up and give the piper panders his money, and you all wonder why i don't hate him, cause archie had as much as a say in the distruction of there own comics, and could dispute the copyright claims on panders instead of just suing him! panders said it himself on his forms! archie, i hope you're happy with yourselves.

i can kind of see where panders is coming from. maybe he was worried that ian was risking losing his job.

i know, i guess i can't help but not want to because i just got into them (the comics) and now the characters are gone? that's why i was glad to see conquoring storm. flynn character or not i feel she's under rated greatly, i don't agree with her robotic eyes though...

thanks for that skye and you are very true with the panders thing. i have heard about archie not paying panders his royalties and i didn't know that things like this were somewhat the norm for comics.

that's still a bit hard to do for some, which is why they don't read the comics anymore. i still do, but it's because of this incident that I wrote the sonic fan fic sonic multiverse. sorry if i'm getting off point here dylan, but, what i'm trying to get to is not everyone wants to deal with this truth. why do you think so many people attack panders? they don't want to believe it's archie's fault that these guys are gone. imagine if (i forget his name but the dude who made fiona fox) sued archie. he would get attacked wouldn't he? also i feel as though all of this is the beginning of the end for the comics.