Psycho the Frog

I mean appeal wise. SA1&2, CD, Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Black Knight, those were way past cool. Colors can't even compete.

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Those are way past cool?

Pretty much all this is why, like Randy Jackson with American idol, I ain't feelin' this. <_< BTW, aside from being aimed for kids, Colors was also aimed at Nintendo fans, and since Sega got good reception from Meta-critic, IGN, and the nintards of our fanbase, I guess this is them trying to stick with this trend to keep fans happy since they still have sticks up their backside over Shadow and 06. Seriously, they haven't dropped that **** yet, I even saw 06 get brought up on a Metroid video for no reason outside of using it as an example of "any story is good unless it's like 06", which he was talking about Other M when he said that, which I heard also got very bad reception. Of course, if you don't give a Darn about the personality of you're characters, I guess you can look past all that. After all, that's how mario games and popular, and with Sonic being more like Mario..... you get the point.

Scrouge being used as a Basketball and his talk with my man, Flying Frog, during his prison arc, and yeah, Shadow's face in SU#1 as said before. Classic. :P

Yeah, why are many Sonic characters never used? I mean, the games pretend no other characters outside of Sonic, Tail, and Eggman exist unless it's a spin-off thanks to the Nintendo fans, and he comics do a good job of keeping up with them but that's it. I mean, Sonic X did have Chaotix but they weren't featured that much(most of the time just being dumb comedy relief), Emarl only for a few EPs, and Omega, Metal Sonic, nor Gmerl were ever around.

I felt the need to make a topic about this since this game doesn't seem to be wildly know despite all the years, updates, and videos posted about this game. It's called Sega Brawlers Megamix by a user named.. DJ Iguana(lol). It's kinda like Smash bros but kinda not, it features many Sega characters and guests but the game runs on lifebars instead of percentage, and death pits on seem to exist in certain adventure mode stages. Here's two video for your enjoyment: If you would like to download the game, look no further, I got yall covered: http://www.chronocrash.com/forum/index.php?topic=382.msg2469#msg2469

I've been harping on this subject long enough, so I'm just gonna make a topic about and .... see what happens! :P but, I'm also kinda lazy, so I'll just start by posting these links for now. First off, let's start with this failed demotivator: http://conflictingviews.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/sonic-fans-are-a-lost-cause-goddammit/ Then I'll hit you with the hard stuff http://conflictingviews.wordpress.com/2013/06/06/sonics-great-light-and-dark-debate/ The point of these is to bring the importance of Sonic's appeal and content into debate. :D

Hell, the guy can still be comedic, it just shouldn't over shadow his villainy, which we barely had a problem with after AOSTH and before Colors, although Unleashed did show some signs of his slipping appeal. BTW, did anyone here even realize that Eggman actually built "Eggman Land" in Unleashed, which was something he wanted to do since Adventure? You know, the main reason he tried to nuke a whole city?

I've decided I would never put my money in anything so stupid. They could have done anything else but making them crossover for the Olympics. Also, I'm willing to bet most people who find the games "fun" never heard or would play Sega's ACTUAL Olympics game, you know, with real people? That proves that whatever money this series is making, is based more on the name brands then the games itself, and it also validates gamers who don't mess with E rated game or anything beyond GTA and COD.

Sorry dude, but the main reason I brought this stuff up because we need to remember that content and appeal is what made Sonic popular, and with the current reception of people wanting Sonic to be super light or kiddy, may end up having a negative effect on this cartoon whether you wind up liking it or not, and then would end up making kids think Sonic is just another joke of a cartoon character instead of the family friendly bada** many of us knew and loved him for, and that will only validate people more on the notion of "what's serious about a blue hedgehog fighting a guy named Eggman", most of the time, ignoring some of things I just pointed out about Eggman setting Angel Island on fire and nearly killing Sonic, and of course the comics, which is hated by the majority of vocal Sonic fans I run into on the net. Regardless, if you feel this is derailing, I'll simply make a new topic.

Well we all Know EggBotnick is a strage guy, I mean, Sonic Spinball anyone? lol, fun game but that last level was a b***h for me when I was younger. Anyway, yeah, EggBotnick has shown signs of wanting to gloat about his victory in some other games, but we also need to remember how he almost killed Sonic in SA2 when he dropped him out of the ark, in which case made Tails' nuts drop enough to take EggBotnick on instead of talking in the back like in Colors(which ironically was what almost got Sonic killed in SA2 in the first place, but EggBotnick already suspected the emerald was fake anyway), which is another plus, dat hole game was one big freakin' + , despite it's fualts.

I seem to have that problem with wording my comments sometimes to, so no harm done, and my mental state is..... ok enough at the moment to recognize that. :D But while you're here, I do have to point this out from you're comment though: It's all cool(fo now :P ), but at the very least, good to see someone gets the concept of balance despite like Sonic Colors, not many other fans don't, and usually equat Colors quality on being light hearted, or even Sonic Heroes, which many fans say was the start of Sonic downfall(it kinda was when you compare it to the tremedous work of the Adventure game, Heroes just didn't seem to go anywhere and was cheesier, but kinda fun and was trying something new with the team thing).

There's nothing wrong with that mang, and I didn't think you were giving off the wrong impression, it's just rare to run into a sonic fan who doesn't know much about the games or hasn't been part in any of the fan wars. Not saying you have to get into the darker side of things either, I'm just pointing out that Sonic games and shows(after AOSTH) used to be balanced in content. As it was said in the article: "The Sonic games really had a lacking universe where people (who didn’t read manuals) had to try and fill the gaps themselves. So with the cartoons and the comics, we had a picture of what Sonic’s world was like. SATam’s content was a balance between light and dark content. There was enough “dark” to keep the kids interested and stimulated, and just enough “light” content to keep the soccer moms at bay. This nice balance kept Sonic “cool” in a sense. And all the boys wanted to plow Sally Acorn." I often try to explain that to people, but the usual responses are about how Shadow and 06 didn't work and how the series doesn't need to be grim"derp"(I hate that f**kin' word BTW, derp, it just sounds stupid when you think it), without even even recalling Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, Sonic Battle, and the Storybook games, which were games that in someway kept that balance that SATAM had and the comics preserve. The main reason I harp on the subject so much is because I run into so many Sonic fans who talk about how the series is aimed at kids andshould be like that, as if they can't understand the concept that the series can have some serioous point to it while being light to, which what made Sonic cool. I mean really, even if you like Sonic Colors, do you at least notice the difference in content when you compare it to the comics?

Whoa dude, didn't know I was talking to an Xer, especially since you have a Comic character in you're avatar, being on this forum, so I'm assuming you're a fan of the comics, yadda yadda. You may not even be an Xer, you're just straight up newb son, and I'm not saying any of that to offend you BTW, so don't take my words to heart. Anyway, you're probably wondering what an Xer is. I got the term from an article I recently read(which is the first quote in my sig) that I thought was spot on, with me being down with Sonic since 2 for the genesis. Try reading this to get some prespective of what I mean and this fan base, you'll need it if you ever make the mistake of going to any other forum and having the wrong opinion like I did, and it was at the Sega forums of all places. That hell hole and it's members turned me into the crazy fan I am now, but I'm rambling so imma shut up, here's that article: http://conflictingviews.wordpress.com/2013/06/06/sonics-great-light-and-dark-debate/

but what about Shadow the Hedgehog? The did things differently with that game and look at the reception of it, and the new Devil May Cry game got the worst of it, where many arguments started just at the hair color, before zero bombing the gameplay as if it was actually bad, and I bought that game, it's not. Going back to Sonic, there was also the Warehog which many people hated and wasn't really bad, and Sonic Black Knight, which personally, the only part I thought was bad was the constant need to swing the Wii mote when it sometimes don't respond right. At the end of it, I this whole thing about overdoing is only good when it goes into a range you don't mind it going to, problem is, most of the vocal fanbase doesn't mind that the games are catered to kids, who are off playing M rated games BTW, as long as it caters to thier desires. Also, may I ask WHY Sonic colors is your favorite game? Is it because fo teh gameplay or it's content, which was an.... attempt.... at being funny? I can at least say I liked Shadow because it was a hybrid of Sonic with Jak & Daxter, and the plot was actually engaging in a sense.

I ain't sayin' not to take all the humor away, just don't overdo it like in Colors, Generations, or what I assume will happen in "Sonic's Lost Mind", again, the example of Eggman singing his theme from SA2 while still walking up like a BOSS . Also, I seem to get into the pattern in when I talk about content in Sonic, Shadow or 06 always seem to get brought up as if I'm sayin' he should be taken to the extreme, but I'm really talking about how he was before 06, or now in the comics. The main reason why I'm preachin' all dis is because Sonic is loosing all his appeal, and the games are slowly turning into somethin barely anyone wants, even the people who bashed every "serious" games and wanted Sonic to be kiddy ain't even buying them, the sales are still low, so what's the benefit when in turning Sonic into a full on kids game when he was meant to be a family friendly bada**? Know what ahm sayin'?

I listen to a lot of old school and underground Hip-Hop, video game tracks, breakbeats, Nu Skool breakbeats, Drum'n Bass, and Dustep. At this moment, I'm listening to "Rich Man's World" by underground rapper, Immortal Technique. This ain't no lil Wayne or any other s*** you may have heard on TV or the radio, Technique is a rapper who actually has a message in his tracks, often rapping about political issues, and doing it well. Quite recently though, I was going through music on Youtube and found some artists by the name of "Cryptix" and "The Glitch Mob". Great house and electronic music, with a little Hip-Hop blended into it as well, and a lot of their tracks are really good.

Maybe not AOSTH Robotnik, but you also have to remember that show was just a loony toon made to promote the games(I think), that and the earlier comics had no real work put into them in turms of Sonic having a set theme till SATAM came around, which the comics soon took after, then the games did at some point, which had Eggman a real villain in the adventure games. Even the Sound Underground Robotnick could at least be taken more seriously, but hte point is, why revert back to this in the games? What's the point? It's not like Eggman acting like a baffoon makes the series any better unless you're that desperate for comedy. Even then, Archie Eggman can still be funny at times, like the time he took over that village while looking for Snively, and when he had got out of his "Egg-o-matic?", started singing his theme song from SA2. Now that was funny, but also didn't loose his credibility from it.

I think I can vouch for the Starfox crew having some personality, and maybe Meta Knight...... Bowser looks cooler....... and....... you're pretty much right mang. :P

and people say I'm crazy for wantin' the games to be like the comics! :P

Ah, someone who gets it! Outside of the guy who wrote that article about the demote, not too many other people get this point, but at the same time, you have to wonder HOW they came up with the opinion that Eggman is a... "goody-two shows", and as the author said, "if you don’t believe Sonic X, Heroes, and all that other bulls**t has skewed the views of Sonic fans the world over, here’s your proof.", because it's media like those that mainly have Eggman as the "goody-two shoes" people think he is. It's the main reason why this new thing going on here about a new show worries me son! :P

While not a bad one, it still wasn't a great one, and it also set a standard for Sonic that he should've NEVER been on, for it has caused some guys to make Demotivators like this. Please tell me you guys see what the problem is with that demotivator, cause to me, it really does seem like they were complaning about Eggman being the villain he's suppose to be. :ph34r:

Hey mang, did you see the video I posted above? You can play as Sonic and other Sega characters in that game, and it's pretty fun. B)

I know you said this should be dropped but I gotta throw my 2 cents in this. Appeal, it does matter to people son, and it's part of human nature to judge something by looks alone, so you should at least understand that yes, people are gonna be turned off by a cartoon about a bunch of colorful ponies, that ain't the kind of ish most guys would want to watch and we shouldn't be prosucuted for it because "it's writing and animation is good". If anything, many of us thought the same thing about writing and animation when it came to a lot of other cartoons before this, so why would I watch a cartoon about some ponies when I can get on Youtube and look up episodes of cartoons like Spawn or Earthworm Jim, cartoons that actually have appeal to them? On the subject of Sonic, when you look at how Sega of Japan has geared this series more towards children, and the fanbase being taken over by Nintendo fan and bronies(barely any of them buyign the games to boot), plus Sonic X being more light then it needed to be cause 4kids had to screw that up, yeah, I'm also buggin' that a new sonic cartoon with this modern, anime-ish, Sonic would turn into something that we don't want, nor what Sonic was orignally suppose to be, and only add more fule to the fire of people thinking Sonic is suppose to be like this just because he was marketed towards kids, forgetting Sonic was suppose to be a family friendly bada**. Sorry mang, but I see all this as a serious problem that needs to be pointed out.